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I'm tired of all those people saying "I don't believe in evolution because [insert random creationist crap here]". (And creationism includes all that "Intelligent Design" stuff, hope it's obvious)
You can't say "I believe/don't believe in evolution", because, well, it's not a matter of belief. :roll:
People who reject evolution most often simply have no idea what it is about and that's rather sad.
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SpinozillaRex Featured By Owner 12 hours ago
Evolution is a scientific theory, meaning there's a great amount of evidence to support it.
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FunnyFurryFox Featured By Owner 1 day ago  New member Hobbyist General Artist
They are mostly humans
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Artist
Humans or modern day apes to be specific?
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FunnyFurryFox Featured By Owner 1 day ago  New member Hobbyist General Artist
Lets say that the new species were related to the ape people
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Artist
Separately or on the lines of the ape people?
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FunnyFurryFox Featured By Owner 1 day ago  New member Hobbyist General Artist
Because.. I don't know but after they died out a new species had already formed because of those mutations so there was another ape man that looked almost like a human being and that's evolution
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Artist
How come we don't have this ape man in our century alive? There wasn't a reason for it/them to die out.
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FunnyFurryFox Featured By Owner 1 day ago  New member Hobbyist General Artist
Like an ape man
Lets say that one of these ape people suddenly became intelligent enough to learn how to use tools and he caught a big a-- antelope and he got to live long enough to have babies with an ape chick
the baby is now smart enough to catch food for his family
Now his kid suddenly lost some fur and it happens to be a bad time to be born with no fur because it is in the middle of the winter, the baby dies because it was warm enough to survive so the trait isn't used until the ape people learned how to make clothes to cover themselves with
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Artist
Like?
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FunnyFurryFox Featured By Owner 1 day ago  New member Hobbyist General Artist
another species
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Artist
And who was this ape man? Another race or a species?
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FunnyFurryFox Featured By Owner 1 day ago  New member Hobbyist General Artist
We evolved from an ape-like man that has also evolved from the mammals from the Jurassic period
And paleontology has evidence that prehistoric animals such as the Dire wolf and the mastodon can evolve to the dog and the elephant
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Artist
I do know about science. And paleontology is the study of fossils. Evolved from what?
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FunnyFurryFox Featured By Owner 1 day ago  New member Hobbyist General Artist
I am just saying that people didn't come from nothing. We evolved! But you probably don't know anything about science and paleontology.
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Artist
That makes no sense. If it was true, people would/should be able to forge matter out of the air.
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FunnyFurryFox Featured By Owner 1 day ago  New member Hobbyist General Artist
I would say something came from absolutely nothing :3
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Artist
It's not a fact unless it's a law. Also it needs hardcore evidence before becoming undeniable.
So everything has to be analyzed by science? It doesn't have the answer to everything, and it is only a base to ask questions.
Bigfoot is a myth made up by millionaires to make money. If they really tried, they would have got one already.
A day in a god is not the same as a day in humanity. What makes more sense? Matter came from nothing with no reason or it was created by something stronger and more powerful?
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FunnyFurryFox Featured By Owner 2 days ago  New member Hobbyist General Artist
Well evolution is a SCIENTIFIC theory there have been a lot of evidence proving that evolution is indeed a fact
However the belief of God is NOT a scientific theory, heck Bigfoot has more evidence than God. He was created by some crazy old man that decided that there is a ginormous man in the sky who created the planet, caused millions of years of evolving and erosion, and created man in like a week...
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I guess I'll start with a question. How would you define macro evolution? 
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deathzerobbb Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Haha i know right! Im so confused arnt i? Well anyways what ya wanna talks about? Haha how evolution is bull? ( well except micro evolution small little changes ) And people are trapped in there own little dream lands? But anyays lets here what you have to say or if anything :D
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I can understand people who at least think they have a valid argument against evolution and try to have a meaningful discussion, but you are quite the quandary. 
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deathzerobbb Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Nope silly trolls dont exsist there myths :D your so silly 
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I am a firm believer that nothing can be accomplished through violence (verbal or otherwise) or the use of ad hominems, directed at the person rather than the information. Too many Atheists throw around words like "idiot" and "ignoramus" as if they somehow increased the legitimacy of their argument. Having been on both sides, I know how counterproductive name-calling is when attempting to make a point or spread information.

When it comes to the views of minorities, it often takes a more prominent voice to pierce through the constant hum of the majority. Sometimes, these representatives truly are just arrogant and egotistic, which is a shame. On the other hand, some just want to be heard, not to hear the sound of their own voices, but for legitimate reasons that shouldn't always be disregarded because of a few misguided individuals. At least, that's what I believe. 

I'm sorry to tell you this, but nothing in science is a "full picture". Even well established scientific facts are not 100% verifiable. Some aspects of our universe are easier to observe, and so our understanding might be as high as 99.99% accurate, but we will never have a 100% accurate "full picture", especially for aspects, such as macroevolution or gravity, which cannot be directly observed by the human eye. To use another cliche, you cannot look yourself in a mirror and be "100% sure that you even exist". Science does not provide absolutes, and asking for such will bring you nothing but endless disappointment. All that we can do is be reasonably certain and continue to increase our understanding.

This statement -"Why not adaptation? Why does it have to be only evolution? Life can adjust without having to grow extra limbs."- is incredibly confusing to me, because it seems to imply that adaptation and evolution are separate. Adaptation is the result of natural selection, which is a mechanism of the Theory of Evolution. Without the concept of adaptation, there is no evolution. By "adaptation" are you referring to microevolution? Because either way, you cannot have macroevolution without microevolution, just as you cannot have evolution without adaptation. Also, evolution does not require organisms to "grow extra limbs". In fact, evolution implies the exact opposite. Natural selection can only exert its effect on existing anatomical structures, which is why we see homologous structures in so many of today's species and the fossil record, with a diverse range of functions. 

Many Atheists seem to forget a very important aspect of their Atheism. Atheism is not making a positive claim, and without a positive claim there is nothing which needs justification. We stand neutral, with nothing to gain or lose. 
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Good thing you were mature enough to read through the comment(s). What gets me a about people in general is that some think being one "uncommon" thing = Special/superior, etc. I see it in some vegans, as an example.
The reason I don't take evolution as proof is because I want the full picture, not just bits of puzzles (unless it's all in one place and I can put the pieces together myself.)
Why not adaptation? Why does it have to be only evolution? Life can adjust without having to grow extra limbs.
I tend to throw that around a lot. Apparently it helps spark discussion. I say that because a large amount of atheism tends to try to justify their beliefs just like theists.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I hope this is pure trolling
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Then I will keep my reply civil. I would have to agree that many Atheists, including myself, are guilty of assuming ourselves intellectually superior to Young Earth Creationists, but we are all aware that there are many Creationists who are highly intelligent and  highly informed (this can seem highly perplexing to us). I can understand why many people don't accept the Theory of Evolution, because it isn't a perfect theory and it isn't completely understood. Having said that, the Theory of Evolution is not the Fact of Evolution. While the theory pertains to the specific mechanisms which allow organisms to evolve through natural processes, the fact of evolution simply states that modern organisms arose from ancestral organisms over a long period of time. While the theory is not 100% complete and occasionally runs into obstacles which take further time and research to explain, the incomplete nature of the explanation for how it happened does not invalidate the fact that it did happen. Many times, Creationists attempt to invalidate explanations for HOW evolution occurs without realizing that the IF of evolution occurring is not open to debate. Biologists, geneticists, paleontologists, and etc. do not spend their entire careers attempting to answer the question "Does evolution occur?", but rather the question "How does evolution occur?" We do not have a complete answer to this question, but the answer which has thus-far been created has mountains of supporting evidence, predictive capabilities, and is at the very least falsifiable. Now, having said that, I would like to point out that the use of "big words" isn't meant to make evolution("ists") look smart. The fact is, they are the words which convey the correct meaning and to refrain from using such words would take away from the topic at hand. 

To use a cliche, saying "Atheism is a religion" is like saying abstinence is a sex position. Despite what the religious might say, Atheism is not the belief that god or gods do not exist. Such a  belief is not falsifiable and must be taken on faith. Rather, Atheism is the withholding of belief in a god or gods. No honest Atheist will say (but there are many dishonest Atheists) that "God does not exist". I, like many other Atheists when confronted by Theists, say that "the existence of a god or gods is both unnecessary and unfalsifiable, and until that time when evidence supporting the existence of god is uncovered, I will withhold belief rather than assume that which has no evidence." The fact that many Atheists treat their beliefs in the same way as the religious treat faith does not make Atheism a religion. It simply makes it a passion. 
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Mishinopolis Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2015  New member Hobbyist Writer
all debates on religion aside, I am a very scientific person as well and we all have to admit Evolution is a theory. It may be a widely accepted Theory. But a theory it is...and other theories out there exist that could work outside of evolution. I have done a lot of research and I find a lot of scientific flaws with this theory. So to say its not a matter of belief when evolution can not be proven and only speculated on is ...well..just not accurate. Even some non religious people don't believe in evolution.
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Ok.
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FunnelVortex Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Dude, you are making yourself look like an idiot
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Exactly. People stuck in their fantasies.
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deathzerobbb Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Haha thanks :D and your right it well never be proven and i hate how scientests/people say its a fact ITS JUST A STUPID THEORY CREATED BY SOME MORONS OK!?!? This is how they work ( like no joke there this dumb ) woa NO F'N WAY! You see that!? That monkey has eyes! And a mouth!!!!! You know who else has eyes  and mouths!?!?!? humans!!!!!!!!!! dude. Dude.dude. DUDE! You just blew my mind! And you do realize what else this means dont you? COMMON ANCESTOR! ( and i love how they always go common ancestor and for monkeys you know hiw they say were not related there just our ancestors DOESNT ANCESTOR MEAN RELATED!? )....i feel sorry for people like that...trapped in there own little fantasy never to escape *tears*
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Well I thumbs up because you a the few people who said evolution will never be proven. 😺
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deathzerobbb Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
:D haha evolution is bull haha...unless! Your making fun of me by that thumbs up and are like thumbs up moron!....hey some people on here can be major d!<k$ ok...*sniff* 
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
People make up answers to avoid fear of the unknown.
Why? Bias?
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nekuroSilver Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015
You aren't religious but believe in creationism? (Well I'm assuming so since you are so opposed to evolution)
I'm beginning to think you're either a troll or not even old enough to vote
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Nope, I'm not part of a religion. I quit being Catholic a long time ago, never knew Atheists had their own bible. 😃
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nekuroSilver Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015
Won't believe in a wikipedia article with sources but will believe a book written when people thought the earth was flat and urine could cure any illness ಠ_ಠ I don't even.
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Someone in Liberia caught ebola.
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Melnazar Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2014
More baseless claims and failed trolling I see. In the end, evolution is still a fact and a scientific theory.
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Every time you say something, a person catches ebola. :iconebolaplz:
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Melnazar Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014
Everytime you post a meaningless icon, you are admitting that evolution is a fact.
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
O? :iconabsolplz:
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Melnazar Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014
Saying that not everything in biology support evolution (and then refusing to back up your claim).
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Deny what?
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Melnazar Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014
You deny your own words because you are a religious zealot... ?
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
:iconseptember11plz:
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Melnazar Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014
You didn't say "not everything in biology"? It's your very words two comments ago.
Why do you deny your very words?
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
More nonsensical talk coming fro you.
I didn't say that, you just keep wasting your time, lol. I have so many replies from people.
I am just going to do this.
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Melnazar Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2014
Not everything in biology, really? Care to back up your statements with actual biology peer review papers? I an give you the link to the NCBI database if you want (it contains every published papers linked with biology).

And with your final statement, you admit you have no coin. Wow. That's sad.
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Internetexplorer968 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Keep thinking lies.
Not everything in biology.
I get a :iconcoinplz: every time you try to convert me to evolution and fail.
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